Thursday, April 17, 2008

Neither Out Far Nor In Deep

by Robert Frost

The people along the sand
All turn and look one way.
They turn their back on the land.
They look at the sea all day.

As long as it takes to pass
A ship keeps raising its hull;
The wetter ground like glass
Reflects a standing gull.

The land may vary more;
But wherever the truth may be---
The water comes ashore,
And the people look at the sea.

They cannot look out far.
They cannot look in deep.
But when was that ever a bar
To any watch they keep?


In this poem by Robert Frost, the author gives us a message about our relationship with the sea. Describe the message and explain the similarities that you can find between Frost’s outlook towards the sea and Hemingway’s character, Santiago.



14 comments:

Anonymous said...

In both “Old Man and the Sea”, by Ernest Hemmingway, and “Neither Out Far Nor in Deep”, by Robert Frost, are relationships between the sea and people mentioned. In “Old Man and the Sea” Hemmingway gives Santiago, the man character, a deep respect and love for the sea. He portrays the sea, from Santiago’s view, to be like a mother figure. The sea nurtures and gives Santiago life. In the story Hemmingway says that “It is enough to live on the sea and kill our true brothers...” In the poem, “Neither Out Far Nor in Deep”, Frost makes the reader really think about their own personal relationship with the sea. Frost, also, states that, “They turn their back on the land. They look at the sea all day”. In both of the lines, from the book and from the poem, all people in the poem have a similar relationship with the sea. They look to her for guidance and for truth. The people also love to live with the sea and respect it just as Santiago does.

Anonymous said...

The poem "Neither Out Far Nor in Deep" and the novel "The Old Man and the Sea" have very comparable connotations. You notice Robert Frost shows in the poem when people are by the sea, they backs are to the land. In line 4, it states "They look at the sea all day." On page 92 in the novel Santiago says "Never have I seen a more noble, beautiful, or calmer thing than you, brother." This distinctively means there is something about the sea and what's in it that people can relate to, appreciate, and show respect for. Santiago and Frost seem to demonstrate a relationship with the sea similar to life. Sometimes just by looking on the outside, you can't visually see very much, but relating to what goes on further can give you a sense of respect. Like in the poem, "They cannot look out far. They cannot look in deep. But when was that ever a bar to any watch they keep?".

Anonymous said...

In Robert Frost's poem, "Neither Out Far Nor In Deep," he describes man's relationship to the sea. Ernest Hemingway writes about one such man, Santiago, and his personal view, in "The Old Man and the Sea." There is an immense amount of similarities between the two works of literature. Lines thirteen and fourteen of the poem explain that the people are trying to understand their attraction the sea, but have not found the reason why, on the outside world or within themselves. Now, they must accept it rather than searching for answers. This is directly related to Santiago when he says "Don't think, old man" "Sail on this course and take it when it comes" on page 103 of the text. Both the people from the poem and Santiago from the novel, have to accept things the way they are and not search for the reasons why they are that way.

Anonymous said...

In Robert Frosts poem “Neither Out Far Nor In Deep” there is a profound correlation between the poem and Santiago. In Old Man and the Sea, by Ernest Hemmingway, Santiago respects the sea and treasures it. In fact, Santiago calls the sea la mar referring to the sea as being a woman. Furthermore, Hemmingway shows the admiration that Santiago has for the sea in this novel. Within “Neither Out Far Nor In Deep”, in the third stanza, second and third lines, Frost speaks of finding the truth wherever it may be and the water coming ashore. These expressions are describing the dependence a person can have on the sea, knowing that the water will always come into the shore and will always wash out to sea. Whatever truth a person may be seeking, whether it is a sign or just a promise, they can be assured that it will be found within the sea.

Anonymous said...

“They cannot look out far
They cannot look in Deep”
The two lines above in the poem “Neither Out Far Nor In Deep” by Robert Frost show how the sea to us is much more mysterious than the land. The people looking out at it cannot see past its surface but, can only admire its beauty from above. In the same way, Santiago cannot see past the surface of the sea. He can only hope and pray that fish will eat his bait. “He’ll take it” “God help him to take it”.

Anonymous said...

Ernest Hemmingway's novel, The Old Man and the Sea, and Robert Frost's poem,"Neither Out Far Nor In Deep",both speak of the beauty and wonder of the sea. They also describe peoples' feelings toward the ocean waters. The line from Frost's poem,"But when was that ever a bar To any watch they keep" expresses the idea that just because a person can't look too far into the sea doesn't mean that an individual can't have their own views on their specific thoughts. Many people go to the sea to relax and reflect on issues in their life. Also, in Hemmingways book, The Old Man and the Sea, the protagonist Santiago uses the sea as somewhat of an escape from his life. The quote ealier mentioned pertains to Santiago's relationship with the sea by Santiago using the waves and fishing to reflect on his life. All in all, the quote explains that even though you may be limited partially, it doesn't stop you from expanding your horizons when you're at sea.

Anonymous said...

In "Neither Out Far Nor In Deep" by Robert Frost, the most powerful line in the poem is; "They look at the sea all day." The people count on the water to make life, and to put aside all of their problems. In the poem, it seems like the water is all the people have which corresponds with "Old Man and the Sea. In "Old Man and the Sea", the old man looks into the water all day as well. He looks in the sea for hope and faith, and also for encouragement; as so do the people in "Neither Out Far Nor In Deep". The water is a very powerful source in both cases, and there will always be life if there is water.

Anonymous said...

In the poem "Neither Out Far Nor in Deep" the line "They look at the sea all day" represents the seas magnificent beauty. The people watch in awe and amazement of the seas unpredictable ways and indescribable serenity. To people the sea is more than just water, it is a feeling beyond control and calmness passes through you. In The Old Man and the Sea by Ernest Hemmingway the quote “He always thought of the seas as la mar which is what people call her in Spanish when they love her.” This symbolizes the sea as a part of life and how it has become part of culture, survival and enjoyment. We look to the sea as a motherly figure and has become a natural getaway to absent yourself from reality and turn to your “mother.”

Anonymous said...

In the poem, "Neither Out Far Nor in Deep", written by Robert Frost, and in the novel, "The Old Man and the Sea", written by Ernest Hemmingway, there are a variety of similarities between the poem and the novel. Robert Frost's message in the poem was how people are connected with the srea. People always seem to stare at the sea like it is ongoing forever. This is similar to the novel because it states, "he always thought of the seas as la mar which is what people call her in Spanish when they love her" . The poem says that "They turn their back on the land.They look at the sea all day". These two quotes are alike for the reason that they both mean that people enjoy watching the sea more than land and have a deeper connection with the sea. In the poem, the stanza says, "they cannot look out far.They cannot look in deep.
But when was that ever a bar
To any watch they keep?". The people seem to concentrate when looking at the ongoing sea. Robert Frost's poem has a very deep meaning to it and is similar to the novel, "The Old Man and the Sea".

Anonymous said...

In the poem “Neither Out Far Nor In Deep” by Robert Frost, there are two lines in particular that really stand out to the reader. These two lines are in stanza three and are the first and last lines of the stanza. “The land may vary more; And the people look at the sea.” Apparently, these poem lines relate to a quote in “The Old Man and the Sea” by Ernest Hemingway. “He always thought of the sea as la mar which is what people call her in Spanish when they love her.” This quote was found on page 29 paragraph 3, when Santiago is beginning to take his long journey out to sea. From the examples out of both the poem and the book, the reader gets a feel and almost a longing passion for the sea. Both Robert Frost and Ernest Hemingway are suggesting that for the people, the sea is a place of relaxation, a place of beauty, and a place for resources. Robert Frost reveals that even as the land all around everyone is modified by changing seasons and other things, they return back to the sea for its beauty and relaxing ‘feel.’ Ernest Hemingway mentions that Santiago, the protagonist, refers to the sea as feminine. From this key fact, the reader may get the feel for the sea being a gentle and nurturing place. Theses examples both illustrate that Robert Frost and Santiago picture the sea in an exceedingly similar way. All in all, the message that is present in both “Neither Out Far Nor In Deep” and “The Old Man and the Sea” is similar in the way that the sea is an important aspect of people’s lives.

Anonymous said...

In "Neither out Far Nor In Deep" and "The Old Man and The Sea" this poem and story both resemble the same similarities. In the poem on line three, "they turn their backs on the land," which indecates that people think highly of the sea. This also shows similarity with the story on page twenty eight, "they speard apart after they went out of the mouth of the harbor and each one headed for the part of the ocean where he hoped to find fish...". The fisherman have their backs to the land everyday when they fish and admire the sea. As they head out for the day to fish, they look towards the sea as a contributor to their lives. All in all, the sea is looked at with great admiration for what it has done for people.

Anonymous said...

In this poem by Robert Frost, the author gives us a message about our relationship with the sea. Describe the message and explain the similarities that you can find between Frost’s outlook towards the sea and Hemingway’s character, Santiago.
In the poem “Neither Out Far Nor In Deep” by Robert Frost, the author gives us a message about our relationship with the sea. That message could be described that the sea holds the truth and many people turn their backs on land to look at the sea all day trying to find that truth that lies in its depths. “They turn their back on the land. They look at the sea all day.” “The land may vary more; but wherever the truth may be the water comes ashore.” In addition, there are several similarities towards the sea between the poem by Robert Frost and Hemingway’s character, Santiago. One similarity is that they both loved the sea, but they saw the sea as something more than just water. An example from the poem would be “They turn their back on the land. They look at the sea all day.” An example from the book “The Old Man and the Sea” would be “He always thought of the sea as la mar which is what people call her in Spanish when they love her.” Another similarity would be that they both look at the sea as a frontier that man has tried to tame over and over again. An example from the poem would be “As long as it takes to pass, a ship keeps raising its hull.” An example from “The Old Man and the Sea” would be “A man can be destroyed but not defeated.” All in all, Robert Frost and Santiago see mysteries and truths waiting to unfold about the sea that other people wouldn’t see normally when they look at the sea.

Anonymous said...

In the poem “Neither Out Far Nor In Deep” by Robert Frost the third and fourth lines of the first stanza appear prominent: “They turn their back on the land” and 
”They look at the sea all day.”
 Evidently, relating to a quote that was chosen form the novel “The Old Man and the Sea” by Ernest Hemingway: “He always thought of the sea as la mar which is what people call her when they love her.” Both Robert Frost and Ernest Hemingway are suggesting that the sea is an important aspect in people’s lives. By all means, Santiago showed his adoration and devotion for the sea; certainly, along with everything pertaining to it. Ernest Hemingway creates the sea to be feminine for Santiago to exhibit how similarly he would treat a lover as he treats the sea. Robert Frost is simply making the sea more imperative than the land, since he states “they turn their back on the land” and “they look at the sea all day.” Additionally, Robert Frost makes the sea out to be tranquil and peaceful. Without a doubt, these authors had indistinguishable ideas regarding the sea.

Anonymous said...

In Robert Frost's poem, "Neither Out Far Nor In Deep", he shows a connection, between the sea, and the people. In Earnest Hemmingway's book, "The Old Man and The Sea", Hemmingway expresses the same connection between Santiago and the sea. They both show, that all people have a deep bond with the sea, though some deeper than others. When the people look at the sea, they see more than just the water. They see a calming connection to the past.